Any success w/ astral travel

[cyberpower]

Just wondering if any of you already had succeeded to astral travel using the technique in NAP book, coz I've tried it several times but still didn't succeed. Any advice and suggestions?

[vovin]

I have been meaning to follup on this for some time. In My experience the material in NAP on Astral projection is sparse and I doubt effective. There are no real structure or exercises to build up on. I would suggest Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics if you want to start working on Astral Projection.

[cyberpower]

But I was a little bit worried if those mentioned from other sites are safe. Can I still use the Point A ritual in NAP and it's power words and supplements it with other techniques?

How bout like this?

http://www.5starpsychicadvice.com/How2A ... oject.html

[vovin]

I would suggest just using it with NAP..

[axeezo]

I remember that Justin on Evocational magics some years ago mentioned that he did have success with the Astral Projection technique ,think he used Success chant with it also,ill look or that and ask him if i can post it here.
Az=xeezo

[cyberpower]

Is it more "safer" and better to be mentally and physically fit first before trying any astral projection techniques?

or does it affect the effectiveness if you're a physically fit person?

[Menxeperset]

Is it more "safer" and better to be mentally and physically fit first before trying any astral projection techniques?

or does it affect the effectiveness if you're a physically fit person?

Dear Cyberpower,

It's pretty safe to do in general. My first resource was Kraig's Modern Magick exercises. I think there are 3 of them. Also, his "Advanced Tarot Contemplation" ritual uses the major arcana the way tattwas were used by the G.: D.: and is well worth the effort as it brings you a deeper understanding of the tarot as well as teaches you how to mentally / astrally project (if you see a difference between the two).

The Art and Practice of Astral Projection by Ophiel is good, too.
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Practice-Astral-Projection/dp/0877282463

Being fit helps you clarify the line between body and psyche, which is useful for astral projection, imho. However, strengthening your ability to visualize and concentrate are key. You may want to look into Peter Carroll's Liber MMM as well.

Best,

Menxeperset

[cyberpower]

Many tnx for that.

Any more astral projection techniques that works?

I've read some and tried some, but no success yet, Coz I was then thinking now that relaxation is one of the first key...for successfull a.p....coz there are some who says that even listening to sleep music could lead them to astral projection....hhmmnnn...maybe I am not that fully relaxed.

[axeezo]

A good astral course thats good is one i took from a guy over @ mystic web now Gnostic web years ago, do a search for them.
Axeezo

[rif]

I remember that Justin on Evocational magics some years ago mentioned that he did have success with the Astral Projection technique ,think he used Success chant with it also,ill look or that and ask him if i can post it here.
Az=xeezo

Does Justin still blog anywhere? He had some good stuff in his blogspot blog when it was active.

And on a related note, do you know if his book (which you've previously recommended) is still available? I'm lately interested in IIH techniques; but I'd welcome a more streamlined approach. Especially if someone has already worked with one. I'm curious how Justin's book is, although I don't want to take this thread too far OT.

Thanks!